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From: ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:01:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/572440

April 3, 2008 -- Intake of soy protein had beneficial effects on
cardiovascular risk factors and kidney-related biomarkers in patients
with type 2 diabetes and nephropathy, according to the results of a
longitudinal, randomized trial published in the April issue of
Diabetes Care.

"Several short-term trials on the effect of soy consumption on
cardiovascular risks are available, but little evidence exists
regarding the impact of long-term soy protein consumption among type 2
diabetic patients with nephropathy," write Leila Azadbakht, PhD, from
the Isfahan University of Medical Sciences in Isfahan, Iran, and
colleagues. "To determine the effects of long-term soy consumption on
cardiovascular risks, we measured C-reactive protein (CRP) and kidney
function indexes among type 2 diabetic patients with nephropathy."

Of 41 patients with type 2 diabetes and nephropathy who were enrolled
in this study, 18 were men and 23 were women. The soy protein group (n
= 20) was assigned to a diet containing 0.8 g protein/kg body weight
(35% animal proteins, 35% textured soy protein, and 30% vegetable
proteins), whereas the control group
(n = 21) was assigned to a similar diet containing 70% animal proteins
and 30% vegetable proteins. Duration of the study was 4 years.

The soy protein group fared better than the control group regarding
effects on cardiovascular risk factors. Mean change in the soy protein
vs control groups for fasting plasma glucose levels was
-18 ± 3 vs 11 ± 2 mg/dL (P = .03); for total cholesterol levels,
-23 ± 5 vs 10 ± 3 mg/dL (P =.01); for low-density lipoprotein (LDL)
cholesterol levels, -20 ± 5 vs 6 ± 2 mg/dL (P = .01); and for serum
triglyceride levels, -24 ± 6 vs -5 ± 2 mg/dL (P = .01).

Compared with the control group, the soy protein group also had
greater decreases in serum CRP levels (1.31 ± 0.6 vs 0.33 ± 0.1 mg/L;
P = .02) and significant reductions in proteinuria (-0.15 ± 0.03 vs
0.02 ± 0.01 g/day;
P = .001) and urinary creatinine levels (-1.5 ± 0.9 vs 0.6 ± 0.3 mg/
dL; P = .01).

Limitations of the study include evaluation of only CRP rather than
other inflammatory markers, evaluation of only a single dosage range
and formulation of soy protein, lack of data on the effects of soy
protein according to estrogen receptor genotype, and measurement of
urinary urea nitrogen and urinary creatinine as concentrations rather
than as 24-hour excretions.

"Longitudinal soy protein consumption significantly affected
cardiovascular risk factors and kidney-related biomarkers among type 2
diabetic patients with nephropathy," the study authors write. "As
diabetic nephropathy is a progressive disease, we expected that the
conditions of these patients would have gotten worse after 4 years,
but because of medical and dietary control, their conditions improved
in some respects."

The costs of publication of this article were defrayed in part by the
payment of page charges, mandating that it must therefore be hereby
marked "advertisement" solely to indicate this fact.

Diabetes Care. 2008;31:648-654.

Clinical Context
Diet is a cornerstone of the management of diabetes, and the authors
of the current study previously demonstrated that the inclusion of soy
and vegetable protein can improve laboratory variables in the short
term among patients with diabetes. They performed a crossover clinical
trial among 14 patients with diabetes and nephropathy, which was
published in the October 2003 issue of the European Journal of
Clinical Nutrition. In this study, the use of a diet in which 35% of
the protein was derived from soy and another 30% from vegetable
sources improved levels of total cholesterol, triglycerides, and LDL
cholesterol after 7 weeks. The soy and vegetable protein diet also
reduced proteinuria but did not affect levels of high-density
lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol.

The current study observes a larger patient cohort for a longer period
to determine the significance of a soy protein diet among patients
with type 2 diabetes and nephropathy.

Study Highlights
Participants in the current study had type 2 diabetes and proteinuria,
with a total urinary protein excretion between 300 and 1000 mg/day.
Participants' serum creatinine level was between 1 and 2.5 mg/dL, and
the serum urea nitrogen level was between 20 and 40 mg/dL. Subjects'
systolic and diastolic blood pressure was greater than 140 and 90 mm
Hg, respectively.
Subjects were randomized to a control diet consisting of 0.8 g protein/
kg body weight, with 70% animal protein and 30% vegetable protein; or
a soy protein group consisting of 0.8 g protein/kg body weight, with
35% animal protein, 35% soy protein, and 30% vegetable proteins.
Participants received visits with a dietician to encourage adherence
to their randomized diet.
The outcomes of the study were renal function, degree of proteinuria,
serum lipid levels, and CRP levels. These outcomes were assessed every
6 months for 4 years.
41 participants provided data for analysis. 43% of subjects were men,
and the mean age of subjects was 62.1 years. The mean duration of
diabetes was 10 years, and the mean glycated hemoglobin level was
6.2%.
There was no difference in total mean energy intake or activity levels
between groups during the trial.
Mean body weight was similar between diet groups at 4 years.
Mean fasting plasma glucose levels decreased by 18 mg/dL in the soy
protein diet group but increased by 11 mg/dL in the control group,
which is a significant difference.
Total cholesterol levels decreased by 23 mg/dL in the soy protein diet
group and increased by 5 mg/dL in the control group, which was also
statistically significant. LDL cholesterol and triglyceride levels
also were reduced more significantly in the soy protein vs the control
diet groups. HDL cholesterol levels were similar in both groups.
CRP levels decreased by 1.31 in the soy protein diet group and 0.33 in
the control group, which is a significant difference.
Proteinuria decreased slightly in the soy protein diet group and
increased slightly in the control group, and this difference was also
statistically significant.
Urinary urea nitrogen and urinary creatinine levels were improved in
the soy protein vs control diet groups, but serum creatinine and serum
urea nitrogen levels and the glomerular filtration rate were similar
at 4 years between groups.
The favorable effects of the soy protein diet on proteinuria were
independent of its effects on plasma glucose, but not lipid, levels.
Pearls for Practice
A small trial of a soy-based and vegetable-based protein diet among
patients with diabetes and nephropathy demonstrated that this diet
could reduce levels of total cholesterol, triglycerides, and LDL
cholesterol and decrease proteinuria in the short term.
The current study finds that a soy protein diet can reduce levels of
fasting plasma glucose, cholesterol, and CRP and decrease proteinuria
vs a control diet among patients with type 2 diabetes and nephropathy.
However, body weight was similar between the 2 groups.

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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy

> April 3, 2008 -- Intake of soy protein had beneficial effects ...

Implications of antinutritional components in soybean foods.Liener IE.
Department of Biochemistry, College of Biological Sciences, University
of Minnesota, St. Paul 55108-1022.

There are a number of components present in soybeans that exert a
negative impact on the nutritional quality of the protein. Among those
factors that are destroyed by heat treatment are the protease
inhibitors and lectins. Protease inhibitors exert their
antinutritional effect by causing pancreatic hypertrophy/hyperplasia,
which ultimately results in an inhibition of growth. The lectin, by
virtue of its ability to bind to glycoprotein receptors on the
epithelial cells lining the intestinal mucosa, inhibits growth by
interfering with the absorption of nutrients. Of lesser significance
are the antinutritional effects produced by relatively heat stable
factors, such as goitrogens, tannins, phytoestrogens, flatus-producing
oligosaccharides, phytate, and saponins. Other diverse but ill-defined
factors appear to increase the requirements for vitamins A, B12, D,
and E. The processing of soybeans under severe alkaline conditions
leads to the formation of lysinoalanine, which has been shown to
damage the kidneys of rats. This is not generally true, however, for
edible soy protein that has been produced under milder alkaline
conditions. Also meriting consideration is the allergenic response
that may sometimes occur in humans, as well as calves and piglets, on
dietary exposure to soybeans.

PMID: 8142044


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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 4:24 pm, jay <jaym1...@hotmail.com> wrote: allergic to
soybeans ,,

You know there are alot of people allergic to peanut butter .. ? .. or
peanuts .. ?

Alot of people ..

Thought you may like to know .. that ..

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 8:01 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote: soy
protein diet can reduce levels of
fasting plasma glucose, cholesterol, and CRP and decrease proteinuria
<<

Titre du document / Document title
A unique antioxidant activity of phosphatidylserine on iron-induced
lipid peroxidation of phospholipid bilayers
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
DIQUE DACARANHE Clemente ; TERAO Junji ;
Résumé / Abstract
The relationship between the antioxidant effect of acidic
phospholipids, phosphatidic acid (PA), phosphatidylglycerol (PG) and
phosphatidylserine (PS), on iron-induced lipid peroxidation of
phospholipid bilayers and theirabilities to bind iron ion was examined
in egg yolk phosphatidylcholine large unilamellar vesicles (EYPC
LUV).
The effect of each acidic phospholipid added to the vesicles at 10 mol
% was assessed by measuring phosphatidylcholine hydroperoxides (PC-
OOH) and thiobarbituric acid-reactive substances.
The addition of dipalmitoyl PS (DPPS) showed a significant inhibitory
effect, although the other two acidic phospholipids, dipalmitoyl PA
(DPPAI and dipalmitoyl PG (DPPG), did not exert the inhibition.
Neither dipalmitoyl PC (DPPC) nor dipalmitoyl phophatidylethanolamine
(DPPE) showed any remarkable inhibition on this system.
None of the tested phospholipids affected the lipid peroxidation rate
remarkably when the vesicles were exposed to a water-soluble radical
generator.
The iron-binding ability of each phospholipid was estimated on the
basis of the amounts of iron recovered in the chloroform/methanol
phase after separation of the vesicle solution to water/methanol and
chloroform/methanol phases. EYPC LUV containing DPPS, DPPA, and DPPG
had higher amounts of bound iron than those containing DPPC and DPPE,
indicating that these three acidic phospholipids possess an iron-
binding ability at a similar level.
Nevertheless, only DPPS suppressed iron-dependent decomposition of PC-
OOH significantly.
Therefore, it is likely that these three acidic phospholipids possess
a significant iron-binding ability, although this ability per se does
not warrant them antioxidative activities.
The ability to suppress the iron-dependent decomposition of PC-OOH may
explain the unique antioxidant activity of PS.
Revue / Journal Title
Lipids   ISSN 0024-4201   CODEN LPDSAP
Source / Source
2001, vol. 36, no10, pp. 1105-1110 [6 page(s) (article)]
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Springer, Heidelberg, ALLEMAGNE (1966) (Revue)

Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 12988, 35400009428476.0030

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From: jay <jaym1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:41:48 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy

> ... Also meriting consideration is the allergenic response
> that may sometimes occur in humans, as well as calves
> and piglets, on dietary exposure to soybeans.

A Soy Diet Accelerates Renal Damage in Autoimmune MRL/Mp-lpr/lpr Mice.

Isoflavones, which are phytoestrogens present in large quantities in
soy and soy-derived products, have estrogenic activity, inhibit
protein tyrosine kinase, and exert other effects in the human body.
Thus, the recent spread of soy consumption in Western populations
emphasizes the need to more fully understand the potential effects in
the body, especially in abnormal immune conditions. In the present
study, the influence of a soy diet on lupus disease in MRL/Mp-lpr/lpr
(MRL/lpr) mice was investigated. Weanling female MRL/lpr mice (4
weeks) were fed a soy diet (20% soybean protein and 5% soybean oil).
The soy diet exacerbated renal damage; findings in this mouse strain
included accelerated proteinuria, elevated serum creatinine
concentrations, and reduced creatinine clearance. No effects were
detected, however, in C3H/HeN mice, which have the same H-2(k) genetic
background as MRL/lpr mice do. A tendency toward an increase in thymus
weight and proliferation of T cells in spleen and B cells in lymph
nodes were found at the age of 16 weeks. These findings indicate that
a soy diet, in comparison with a casein diet, significantly
exacerbates the clinical course of this autoimmune disease. Further
research on the mechanism of this effect of soy-rich diets is needed,
and isoflavone supplementation for systemic lupus erythematosus
patients should be carefully reevaluated.

PMID: 16039550


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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 4:41 pm, jay <jaym1...@hotmail.com> wrote: A Soy Diet
Accelerates Renal Damage in Autoimmune MRL/Mp-lpr/lpr Mice. <<

What kind of mice were those .. again .. ?

"Isoflavone supplementation for systemic lupus erythematosus patients
should be carefully reevaluated"

Oh .. they are trying to get the present supplementation IN ..
lupus .. repealed .. ?

They concluded they have to reevaluate the supplementation of ..
isofavones .. ?

That's too .. bad.

They have some work ahead of them ..

I bet you wish them the .. best .. don't ya .. jay ..

Heh .. heh ..

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:40:32 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 8:05 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
isoflavones <<

Contrary it seems to .. "Isoflavones kill you .. !!"

"We recommend to use them in our diet as a good source of
isoflavones."

It 'may' be because isoflavones 'may' kill .. cancer .. ?

"Cell proliferation is significantly inhibited by potential
phytoestrogens isolated from rye, green and yellow pea seeds "
"It is proposed that green and yellow pea seeds contain measurable
concentrations of isoflavones and rye seeds contain lignans which can
be isolated and used for special human diet programs."

Titre du document / Document title
Effects of phytoestrogen extracts isolated from rye, green and yellow
pea seeds on hormone production and proliferation of trophoblast tumor
cells Jeg3
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
MATSCHESKI A. ; RICHTER D.-U. ; HARTMANN A.-M. ; EFFMERT U. ; JESCHKE
U. ; KUPKA M. S. ; ABARZUA S. ; BRIESE V. ; RUTH W. ; KRAGL U. ;
PIECHULLA B. ;
Résumé / Abstract
Background:
Phytoestrogens are a diverse group of non-steroidal plant compounds.
Because they have chemical structures similar to estrogens they are
able to bind on estrogen receptors in humans. Objectives:
In this study, we tested the effects of crude phytoestrogen extracts
from rye (Secale cereale), green pea (Pisum sativum) and yellow pea
seeds (Pisum sativum cv.) on cell proliferation and the production of
progesterone in trophoblast tumor cells of the cell line Jeg3.
Methods:
Isoflavone extracts from green and yellow pea seeds and lignan
extracts from rye seeds were obtained, using different extraction
methods. Isolated extracts were incubated in different concentrations
with trophoblast tumor cells.
Untreated cells were used as controls.
At designated times, aliquots were removed and tested for estradiol
and progesterone production.
In addition, we tested the effects of the phytoestrogen extracts on
cell proliferation.
Results:
Cell proliferation is significantly inhibited by potential
phytoestrogens isolated from rye, green and yellow pea seeds in
trophoblast tumor cells of the cell line Jeg3.
We found a correlation between the effects of proliferation and
production of estradiol in isoflavone extracts from green and yellow
pea seeds in Jeg3 cells.
In addition, higher concentrations of isoflavones isolated from green
pea seeds and lignans from rye showed also a inhibition of
progesterone production whereas higher concentrations of rye lignans
elevated estradiol production in Jeg3 cells.
Conclusion:
A useful indicator test system for potential phytoestrogens could be
established.
Based on the obtained results it is proposed that green and yellow pea
seeds contain measurable concentrations of isoflavones and rye seeds
contain lignans which can be isolated and used for special human diet
programs.
Revue / Journal Title
Hormone research   ISSN 0301-0163   CODEN HRMRA3
Source / Source
2006, vol. 65, no6, pp. 276-288 [13 page(s) (article)]
Langue / Language
Anglais

Editeur / Publisher
Karger, Basel, SUISSE (1973) (Revue)

Mots-clés d'auteur / Author Keywords
Jeg3 ; Rye ; Green and yellow pea ; Estradiol ; Progesterone ; 5-
Bromo-2'-deoxy-Uridine ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 14766, 35400015668412.0030

Copyright 2007 INIST-CNRS. All rights reserved

Toute reproduction ou diffusion même partielle, par quelque procédé ou
sur tout support que ce soit, ne pourra être faite sans l'accord
préalable écrit de l'INIST-CNRS.
No part of these records may be reproduced of distributed, in any form
or by any means, without the prior written permission of INIST-CNRS.

Nº notice refdoc (ud4) : 17830924

-------------------------------

"We recommend to use them in our diet as a good source of
isoflavones."

Published online 1 March 2007
Published in Crop Sci 47:717-719 (2007)
© 2007 Crop Science Society of America
677 S. Segoe Rd., Madison, WI 53711 USA This Article

CROP PHYSIOLOGY & METABOLISM
Production of Isoflavones in Seeds and Seedlings of Different Peanut
Genotypes
Ara Kirakosyana, Peter B. Kaufmana,*, James A. Dukeb, E. Mitchell
Seymoura, Sara Warbera and Steven F. Bollinga
a Univ. of Michigan Integrative Medicine Program (MIM), Univ. of
Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109
b Herbal Vineyard, 8210 Murphy Rd., Fulton, MD 20759

* Corresponding author (p...@umich.edu).

The present study compares concentrations of medicinally important
isoflavones in seeds versus seedlings of 20 selected peanut genotypes
derived from widely different geographic sources and compares the
total isoflavone concentrations in peanut (Arachis hypogaea L.) with
those present in soybean [Glycine max (L.) Merr.] and kudzu [Pueraria
montana (Lour.) Merr.]. Results of analyses of 20 different peanut
genotypes showed that wide variation occurs in isoflavone
concentrations both in peanut seeds and peanut seedlings; that peanut
seedlings possess 0.8-fold to 27-fold higher concentrations of
isoflavones than peanut seeds; that peanut seeds and seedlings possess
little or no genistein; that peanut seeds contain one-half the
concentrations of isoflavones as soybean seeds, and soybean seedlings
contain four times higher concentrations of isoflavones than peanut
seedlings; and that kudzu seeds and seedlings, in contrast, contain
significantly higher concentrations of isoflavones than either peanut
or soybean seeds and seedlings. In conclusion, because peanut
seedlings and sprouts are better sources of isoflavones than peanut
seeds, we recommend that the former be grown as a vegetable so as to
use them in our diet as a good source of isoflavones. Furthermore, the
wide variation in isoflavone concentrations in different peanut
genotypes, as shown in this study, could be exploited by plant
breeders as an easy and reasonable production strategy.

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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 8:40 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
isoflavones <<

http://www.isoflavones.info/isoflavones-safety.php

Safety of isoflavones
There are studies which try to prove that isoflavones are not safe.
These studies are mostly based on experiments with animals and studies
in-vitro (where tests are done in cells grown in test tubes). The
interpretation of these results and the extrapolations to humans is
questionable. Most of the isoflavones dosages which were used are very
high compared with normal usage. The following issues are often
raised:

Isoflavones can cause breast cancer
Isoflavones are similar in structures as human estrogen. Therefore
it's easy to make the theory that isoflavones are not safe for women
with a cancer breast risk.
Test with Raloxifene, a molecule similar to isoflavones, proved that
they protect against breast cancer. Animal studies also show that
fermented soyfood, miso or soy protein significantly improve the
chemotherapeutic effects of Tamoxifen.
In a in-vitro study the isoflavones genistein inhibited the growth of
breast cancer cells. Genistein had a synergistic effect with
tamoxifen.
Based on the currently available evidence there's no reason that
consuming soy may cause breast cancer. With isoflavones supplements
it's easy to take too much isoflavones, which is not possible when
consuming soyfoods. Not much data is available on the overconsumption
of isoflavones supplements. It's recommended not to consume more tan
50 mg isoflavones as supplement per day.

Isoflavones and infant development
In the United States, about 20 percent of the infants are given soy
formulas. It has been suggested soy formula could accelerate puberty
and cause developmental and reproductive abnormalities and thyroid
disorders. Preliminary research in the US found that isoflavones of
soy infant formula do not disrupt infant development, despite concerns
from some scientists that the isoflavones could act like female
hormones in infants. Studies at the Arkansas Children's Nutrition
Center have found no apparent long-term positive or negative effects
of feeding infants soy versus cow's milk formula.
Ryowon C. et al investigated the effects of soy isoflavones on babies
and concluded that soy-based formula could be used for long-term
feeding of babies.

Adverse effects on boys or men
Because isoflavones are similar in structure than the 'female' hormone
estrogen some people are very quick to make a link between isoflavones
and development of breasts and adverse effect on fertility of boys and
men. However, animal studies did not find any change in fertility.
Studies on men taking isoflavones supplements showed no effect on
plasma hormones or semen quality. Other studies showed no adverse
effects on sperm quality in mice fed with genistein.

Isoflavones and thyroid
The hormones produced by the thyroid are needed for the growth. Soy
appears to have potential effects involving the thyroid gland.
Individuals with impaired thyroid function should discuss the intake
of isoflavones with their phycisian because isoflavones have been
observed to reduce absorption of thyroid medication. Studies have
shown that infants fed with soy formula have the same development as
infants fed with cow milk formula.
Studies showed that soyfoods, and their isoflavones, are associated
with a reduced risk of thyroid cancer. Some studies hint that
isoflavones may inhibit the function of the thyroid gland, though this
inhibition may only be significant in individuals who are deficient in
iodine. Therefore people who consume large amounts of soy or
isoflavones should make sure that their intake of iodine is adequate.
Other studies on healthy humans have found that soy and isoflavones
had no effect on thyroid hormone levels and actually increased levels
in some cases.

More literature about safety of isoflavones
Chang HC et al. Dietary genistein inactivates rat thyroid peroxidase
in vivo without an apparent hypothyroid effect. Toxicol Appl Pharmacol
2000;168(3):244-252.

Cummings SR et al. The effect of Raloxifene on risk of breast cancer
in postmenopausal women: results from the MORE randomized trial. JAMAI
1999;281:2189-2197.

Tanos V et al. Synergistic inhibitory effects of genistein and
tamoxifen on human dysplastic and malignant epithelial breast cells in
vitro. Eur J Obstet Gynecol Repr Biol 2002 May 10;102(2):188-94

Mitchell JH et al. Effect of phytoestrogen food supplement on
reproductive health in normal males. Clin Sci (Lond) 2001 Jun;100(6):
613-618.

Fielden MR et al. Effect of human dietary exposure levels of genistein
during gestation and lactation on long-term reproductive development
and sperm quality in mice. Food Chem Toxicol 2003 Apr;41(4):447-54.

Churella HR et al. Growth and protein status of term infants fed soy
protein formulas differing in protein content. J Am Coll Nutr
1994;13:362-267.

Pamela L et al. Phytoestrogens and thyroid cancer risk among woman.
Presented in the 4th international symposium on the role of soy in
preventing and treating chronic disease, San Diego, CA. 2001 Nov 4-7.

The long term effects of soy-based formula on isoflavone concentration
of plasma and urine, and growth and recognition development at 10 and
20 months old infants. Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2004;13(Suppl):S123

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I don't get it.  What were the experimenters' conclusions?

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I can't figure out who (Tom or Jay) said "Alot of people," but if you're
going to cross-post in sci.med and sci.med.nutrition, you might (1) look
up and tell us the actual incidence, (2) distinguish between conflicting
definitions of "allergy" with respect to foods, (3) mention aflatoxins
and their significance to peanut consumption, and (4) put it in a thread
on peanut consumption generally, not *soybeans* in the diets of patients
with *DM2-associated nephropathy*.  Right?

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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, Marshall Price <d0213...@yahoo.com> wrote:I don't
get it.  What were the experimenters' conclusions? <<

I'll give you a tip ..

Article reading .. 101 ..

Usually the conclusion is found at the bottom of the article ..

"The current study finds that a soy protein diet can reduce levels of
 fasting plasma glucose, cholesterol, and CRP and decrease proteinuria
 vs a control diet among patients with type 2 diabetes and
nephropathy.
 However, body weight was similar between the 2 groups."

Now if you don't understand the short little four line paragraph
above .. buddy .. you are .. S=O=L ..

Just kidding .. Marshall ..

It says .. "soy protein diet good" ..

I'll .. assume you know the study was done in those with ..
nephropathy and type 2 diabetes.

Nephropathy is .. kidney disease ..

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On Apr 4, 8:01 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:Soybean
<<

Scientists Identify Key Lipid-Lowering Ingredient in Soybeans
June 2004
It has been known for years that the consumption of soybeans improves
cardiovascular health by helping to remove LDL (bad) cholesterol from
the blood stream. An intensive search has been underway for the active
agent in soybeans responsible for this benefit, in the hope that it
might prove useful as a nutraceutical or dietary supplement. A team of
Italian scientists has now identified the active protein molecule in
soybeans that lowers blood lipid levels and have labeled it the alpha-
prime subunit of the soybean 7S globulin. (A globulin is a polypeptide
chain that is folded like a globe, and is water insoluble). They also
have discovered the mechanism through which it accomplishes this
beneficial outcome.

This alpha-prime polypeptide subunit is one of three that make up the
soybean 7S globulin. It constitutes about 35 percent of the 7S
globulin. It works by upregulating the Beta-VLDL receptor in the
liver, in effect stimulating the liver to more aggressively latch onto
and metabolize LDL cholesterol in the blood supply. The authors
highlight one aspect of their findings -

"The results of the present study, in our opinion, are extremely
intriguing because they show for the first time that a dietary protein
is active at concentrations that are lower than those reported for
hypolipidemic drugs."

Given that this biologically active protein has just been isolated, no
work has been done on the impact of genetics and farming systems on
its levels in soybeans, nor on the impact of food processing and food
preparation. The Organic Center will continue to monitor research in
this area to see if there are ways to increase the concentration of
this key protein.

Source: "The Alpha-Prime Subunit from Soybean 7S Globulin Lowers
Plasma Lipids and Upregulates Liver Beta-VLDL Receptors in Rats Fed a
Hypercholesterolemic Diet"

Authors: Marcello Duranti, Maria Rosa Lovati, Valeria Dani, Alberto
Barbiroli, Alessio Scarafoni, Silvia Castiglioni, Cesare Ponzone, and
Paolo Morazzoni, University of Milan, Italy

Journal: The Journal of Nutrition, Volume 134, No. 6, June 2004

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 4, 4:37 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:allergic to
soybeans <<

http://tinyurl.com/3u8a49

Soy Lecithin Unfairly Characterized As An Allergen

There certainly are a lot of challenges facing the dietary supplement
industry these days. The industry has its own set of self-induced
problems delivering products that don't match label claims. A visit to
www.ConsumerLab.com provides continued evidence of this.

Then there are the challenges posed from outside the industry. The
production of pseudoscience, to scare the public away from dietary
supplements, is now a monthly occurrence. False science has been
created to say vitamin E increases the risk of heart failure, high-
dose vitamin C is worthless and could cause genetic mutations, vitamin
D could cause calcifications, beta carotene induces lung cancer in
smokers.

Then there is adverse event reporting, the proposed idea of mandating
every dietary supplement company keep records of every adverse event
reported by consumers. (This is going to be a field day for lawyers,
who will file suits, and under legal discovery, be able to mine all
the adverse event files of every supplement company to extort payments
from them, regardless of whether the supplements were the cause of
adverse events or not.)

Then there is CODEX, the authoritarian regulations that will soon
"harmonize" dietary supplements into pablum doses that do little to
prevent disease and certainly pose no threat to the pharmaceutical
industry.

But none of these yet pose the threat to dietary supplements as the
Food Allergy Labeling Consumer Protection Act of 2004. As of January
2006 all new dietary supplements that contain common allergens must be
labeled so that allergen-sensitive individuals, estimated at 2% of the
population, can avoid products that may trigger reactions. Because of
the threat of aflatoxin (a toxic mold), this includes "products that
contain nuts, or products made in factories where nuts were processed,
or any soy products"....stop right there --- this means products that
contain soy lecithin must be identified as an "allergen."

How does the public perceive this? One company added lecithin to a
dietary supplement and had to disclose it "contains soy." Hundreds of
consumers called to complain. Forget the fact they eat lecithin in
candy bars, baked goods and beverages every day, what is it doing in
their food supplement?!! Why, toxic soy is an allergen, so lecithin
must be too! Overlook the fact that lecithin is phosphatidylcholine,
which is found in every cell of the human body. Also, disregard
scientific studies which show that proteins in soy lecithin have
little ability to create antigens (allergy-provoking agents) even
among those who are allergic to soybeans. [Clinical Experimental
Allergy 28: 1559-64, 1998]

The soy bashers have been very active. According to a report in Nexus
magazine, soy is one of the top allergens (yes, along with fish, eggs,
milk, peanuts, wheat, you know, regular foods that are promoted in the
government Food Pyramid), and is one of the "sinister seven" foods
that can cause an immediate hypersensitivity reaction. Soy is not just
a food that sensitive individuals should be aware of, it has now been
misconstrued to cause life-threatening allergies in 98 percent of the
public that aren't allergy sensitive.

Widely quoted is a report from Sweden, that six allergy-sensitive
children died after eating soy foods. [Allergy 54: 261, 1999] These
deaths were reported over a 5-year period (1992-96). In the most
recent 7-year period, soy-related allergic deaths in Sweden have
dropped to just one-life threatening case (subject didn't die).
[Lakartidningen 102: 3465-68, 2005] Forget the facts, what the public
hears is that soy kills!

What people are told is that your kids could be eating a soy burger in
the school lunchroom, and their parents could visit their body in the
morgue an hour later. Here is what one child allergy resource on the
internet says: "Children with a true soy allergy can experience
potentially life-threatening conditions such as anaphylactic shock,
and those with soy allergies should avoid all foods that contain soy.
Should a child with soy allergies ingest soy, they'll need immediate
medical attention."

Furthermore, according to the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer
Protection Act of 2004, "The burden shall be on any petitioner to
provide scientific evidence that such food ingredient does not cause
an allergenic response that poses a risk to human health." Soy
lecithin is guilty until proven innocent. According to a recent
survey, 38% of parents of allergy-sensitive children avoided products
with soy lecithin, just to be on the safe side. [Annals Allergy Asthma
Immunology 95: 426-28, 2005]

Folks, advocates and devotees of dietary supplements, makers of
lecithin products cannot bear the burden of answering endless phone
calls from nutriphobic consumers. Forget that more people die from
aspirin or acetaminophen, commonly used over-the-counter pain
relievers, or die from side reactions to drugs that doctors prescribe,
a major dietary supplement, lecithin, is now a major allergen, and a
child killer! Every precaution must be taken, with no regard to
expense, to protect that one allergy-sensitive child from dying.

Now, just published is a report showing life-threatening anaphylactic
reactions can occur from grapes and wine. [Allergy Asthma Proceedings
26: 53-58, 2005] Soon wine bottles will be labeled as potential
allergens. So will grape seed extract and resveratrol pills in food
supplements.

Not to worry about CODEX. It is nutriphobic consumers themselves who
will destroy the dietary supplement industry.

- Copyright 2006 Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:17:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
On Apr 6, 9:05 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Old ironinjustice is nothing if nor smug.

Who does he love? No one other than
himself and then that is even in question.

Back to the topic.
The question I wonder is about is the nature
of the control diet. Was it a SAD (standard
American diet)? It doesn't take much to
improve on SAD. Better competation to
a soy diet would be low carb diet based
on low carb veggies, certain nuts and specific seeds,
 red meat, and cold water oceanic wild caught fish, plus a little
diary.

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Did you see "King Corn" on "Independent Lens" last night?  It was a real
eye-opener for me.

I remember seeing feed lots in the distance, as I drove along an
interstate highway through ...

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On Apr 16, 10:14 am, Marshall Price <d0213...@yahoo.com> wrote:I
remember seeing feed lots in the distance, as I drove along an
 interstate highway through ... <<

The protein they are getting for these feedlots and I've heard they
are feeding them homeless people .. but .. that hasn't been ..
proven ..

Protein pellets ..

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Subject: Re: Soy Intake and Type 2 Diabetes Nephropathy
Thats not too fair from true. Evidently some road kill makes
into the food cycle. Certainly deer can carry prions
and they are amongst the road kill.
Given how the great laboratories the various State
government behave toward the poor, the recycling
humans is just imaginable especially in Alabama
and Texas.

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Try living near to one of the mature piles/feed lots. The stink can
cover
of miles of terriitory.

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