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This is but one source of chelated minerals.  It sounds more
"natural" (i.e. profitable) to say something is derived from a
plant, but there is nothing natural about a substance that
comes in the form of a pill.

Now, I'm not bashing dietary supplements -- I take quite a few
myself.  But whether the mineral desired is in a naturally chelated
form, or if it has been chelated in the lab, probably makes no
difference.  And, as much as I want "natural" products, I'll go
with the synthetically chelated minerals, they're likely more
effective.

This is true -- an amino acid is the best (but not the only) chelator.
It's interesting to note that sometimes a chelated product is used
because of the chelator, such as in the case of Ester-C.  This is
where Vitamin C is chelated with Calcium, in order to buffer (or
esterify) the Vit. C from the digestive process, thereby aiding in
absorption and tolerance (to the normally acidic Vit. C)...

// Too easy Jet---Just stop buying!//

But you have to pay off the bills, too.

J

In article <33173f08.582...@neonlights.uoregon.edu>,

Ah, but you're wrong, or mostly so.  My file has been very effective.
There's been a very noticable decline in the Cell Tech spammers
in the newsgroups since the introduction of my files.  Basically,
it's a file they can't refute, and they seem to have got tired
of seeing it everytime SBGA is advertised in the newsgroups I
monitor.

The options I've thought of are:

1)  Spam my file through the same channel Cell Tech used.  For
    reasons I've already explained, I am too ethical to do that.

2)  Compile a binder of scientific and medical literature, neatly
    index it, and include summaries so that it is quick and easy
    to skim.  Send it to the appropriate person at the Seattle
    district office of the FDA in Bothell, WA.  I've seen the
    FDA's file on Cell Tech, and it seems disorganized and
    confused.  Nowhere does it even mention anatoxin-a, although
    it does include copies of some scientific papers that note
    that _Aphanizomenon_flos-aquae_ can produce toxins.  I think
    what the FDA needs is a body of relevant research, nicely
    organized and focussed, so they know exactly what the case
    against the algae is.  BTW, I've already got the binder
    prepared.

3)  Same as 2), but send the binder to an investigative journalist.
    BTW, I was recently approached by a newspaper reporter to
    help with his story on the algae.  But I'd prefer to help
    TV journalism.  I don't like the way newspaper gets all
    that black stuff on my fingers.  :-)

4)  Same as 2), but give the binder to my local Congressman
    and ask him to get some action one way or another from the
    FDA to resolve whether or not the algae contains a cocaine
    analog drug.  My local Congressman is very responsive, so
    this might actually be the most effective way to cut off
    Cell Tech's abuse of the Internet.

Any comments on which option is best?  I really don't want
to destroy Cell Tech, but if that's the only way to stop them
from abusing the net, then so be it.  Note that none of these
options are mutually exclusive.  I could do all of them, but
that would be a lot of work.  If I could just get Mike Wallace
to run a story on _60_Minutes_, that should be enough.

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new, holistic form of retirement living as an alternative to
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facility would be fashioned like a private residence and would
offer a nurturing environment.  Priorities of such a facility
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*    Access to alternative medicine therapies and treatments.

*    Organic foods served at meals.

*    Menus designed for individual health conditions.

*    Assisted living capability.

*    Assistance with reimbursement from federal, state, and
     private insurance programs.

The creation of a holistic retirement facility will involve
the participation of many different people, including:

A.   Senior individuals in good health desiring to share such
     a holistic retirement experience and who have the means
     to pay for such care.

B.   Developers and investors interested in creating such a
     facility.

C.   Health care professionals who can provide management and
     administrative expertise.

D.   Health care providers who make available alternative
     medicine therapies at the facility.

E.   Nutritionists interested in organic food service.

F.   Children of seniors who may soon be in need of such a
     holistic retirement facility.

If you are interested in creating or residing in a holistic
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Cathleen Springer at (415) 367-6763
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I constantly read articles on this site from people that are "experts" in
health and "supplements".  If I go see a used car salesman and he looks
and talks like an idiot, but the car is an outstanding value, the
salesman is irrelevant.  Who cares what the salesman says!!  How many of
you are users? I am.  A brief history:  I am a white male, 59 years of
age, had a tripple bypass in '94, kidney stone surgery in about '62,
lithotripsy in '95, teat-ment for hypertension, high cholestrol, etc,
etc.  I started the "Toddy" products and in four months, arthritus is
gone, BP normal, cholestrol normal, my energy level is unbeleaveable,
etc. etc.  Whale on you unhealthy doubting Thomases!!

-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
      http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet

//      Anyone can say anything on this newsgroup and it is difficult
to ascertain the authenticity of it. If anyone believes on face value
that this fellow truly has his hypertension, high cholesterol and
arthritis "cured" by Toddy products then I have some swampland in
Florida for sale.//

I know, if I had discovered a product that would do all that, I would
become sooo rich I'd make Bill Gates look poor.

Why don't these scammers ever do any double blind controlled studies?
Maybe it's because they know there stuff doesn't work.
J

Didn't this all start with AmWay or Mary Kaye?  Maybe pyramid schemes have always been around.  I am not against anyone choosing this for a hobby or supplemental income or if they want to be schemers the rest of their days but, so far, I'm not impressed.
Joy, Diedra

It is true that MLM is a method of marketing many scams use.  It is
unfortunate that this seems to predominate in the MLM industry.  However,
there are a few excellent companies out there.  These are companies
involved in the Direct Sales Association; companies in business for a
minimum of 4-5 years(many don't last over 2 years); and companies that
encourage their distributors/sales representatives to treat their
business as just that- a business, not a get rich quick scheme.  
 To succeed in any business, hard work is a necessity.

No, I am not a Joel Wallach follower. I am in a business opportunity but
am not here to pitch it.

Thanks!

Just my viewpoint :)  
tomjo...@warwick.net